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The Shannon Region, in the mid-west of Ireland, is a special place, where you can refresh your spirit away from the frenetic and crowded cities of the world. The Region covers counties Clare, Limerick, North Kerry, North Tipperary and South Offaly.

 

THANK YOU IRELAND – THANK YOU LIMERICK……

Greetings,
Thank you Ireland – thank you Limerick! The inaugural World Vintage Rugby Carnival (recently staged in Limerick) could not have got off to a better start – perfect weather, great social functions and wonderful rugby enjoyed by all. Welcome to Vintage Rugby Newsletter No 11, which reports on all aspects of the Limerick Carnival and sets the scene for 2006. Read on …

Buenos Aires here we come …
The announcement that the next World Vintage Rugby Carnival will be staged in Buenos Aires in September 2006 has been very well received. We believe this will be the first international veteran rugby carnival to be staged in Argentina and the possibilities for an unforgettable visit are endless. Its an accepted fact that Buenos Aires is the most European style city in South America. Since the peso devaluation it has become very cheap for Westerners – the feeling is like being rich in Paris!

Full details about the Carnival programme are being finalized and it is hoped to be able to confirm the programme and costs in the next 4-6 weeks once the website has been re-designed. We promise that the programme will be an exciting one – tailored to match the magic of the venue. 

Only 80 teams will be accepted, so why not register your interest now and we'll make sure you get the details first! 
Give us your brief details by email>.

 What’s news …
  • We were all relieved to learn that Battleship Old Boys are safe and sound. There was some concern for their safety after seeing TV coverage of the carnage caused by the hurricane that hit their home town of Mobile. However Lars Granade, manager of the team in Limerick, has confirmed that the storm shifted 30 miles east just before making landfall putting the majority of the teams’ homes on the west side of the eyewall. One of the team lost the first floor of his home due to flooding and everyone had lots of trees down but thankfully they are all in good health.
  • A special thanks to Failte Ireland, Shannon Development and Heineken for their enthusiastic and generous support – they are fantastic organizations !
  • There were 4 awards presented at the final dinner in Limerick by John King, Shannon Development’s Director of Tourism & Heritage and Ciara Gallagher, Sports Tourism Officer for Failte Ireland:

     Photo credits – Michael E Johnson Photography.
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    Click to enlarge, then "Back" to return. The Best Team Mascot award went to Helvetes de Geneve from Switzerland for their mascot Milka the cow. 
    Click to enlarge, then "Back" to return. The Oldest Player at the Carnival was Peter Brandt aged 80 a member of  Diok Oude Meesters from The Netherlands. 
     Click to enlarge, then "Back" to return. The Best Dressed Team was Les Archiball USA.
    Click to enlarge, then "Back" to return. The Silliest Move award went to Bustard Eagles from Australia for going out and buying a gas BBQ that they attempted to light in a timber enclosed building at their village in the University of Limerick.
    Needless to say security arrived and steaks were eaten very rare that night! 
  • The inaugural Team Leaders Conclave held at the end of the Limerick Carnival was attended by over 50 reps. The discussion covered a wide range of topics. The notes have been sent to those who attended. Additional copies are available on request – paul@vintagerugby.com
  • Old Bangkok Bangers (winners of the early bird team prize – a medieval banquet at historic Bunratty Castle) duly collected their prize and had a great night. Rumour has it they were out until after 4am ! 

A view from the New York Vintage Whines…
We asked Geoff Andrews (leader of two teams representing the New York Vintage Whines in Limerick) to contribute a Carnival report. Here is what he wrote…

Most of the New York Vintage Whines team arrived in Limerick early on the morning of Saturday Sept. 4th. We seemed to have far too much luggage, but then again this was Ireland so make sure you bring plenty of sweaters, winter jackets, and other cold and wet weather gear. We were excited to be pioneers at the inaugural World Vintage Rugby Carnival and chuckled amongst ourselves at the five-day forecast we'd seen on the Internet prior to leaving New York. The prediction for Limerick was 5 days of warm sunny weather blah blah blah. What a load of garbage. Don't they know this is Ireland? You know, Ireland, where they have four passing rainstorms a year and each one lasts 3 months. 

Well, well, well. How wrong we were. Those Internet predictions were right on.

The weather for the entire Carnival was magnificent. Five of the six days were cloudless with temperatures in the low 80's (25 Celsius). Perfect weather for rugby and cold beer. Is it just me or does Heineken always taste that good when the weather is this hot?

The Carnival began with a muster of all teams on the banks of the Shannon River where the Mayor of Limerick welcomed us. Not only did he welcome us, he insisted on bringing out the ball used in the magnificent win by Munster over the mighty All Blacks in 1978. Munster won 12 to nil and they still talk about it. Tough for an All Black supporter (like yours truly) to be constantly reminded about it, but then this is Limerick, the home of Irish Rugby.

The parade of teams to King John's Castle for the welcoming party was a colourful affair and it was wonderful to see the children of team members joining in the celebrations. The welcome party lasted well into the night and the band got everybody in an "Irish" mood of goodwill.

All games were played at the University of Limerick and the fields were magnificent. Well watered by the ground staff and covered in lush grass. The University "Sports Bar" was only a five-minute walk from the fields and they kept us well served with cold refreshments and good food.

The Vintage Whines had two teams at the Carnival and were lucky enough to play on fields close to one another so we could sub between teams when needed. Our games were well refereed and played in the spirit of Vintage Rugby. If you wanted to play "full steam ahead" Old Boys rugby you could, and if you wanted to play with a red vest and not participate in the more physical aspects, you could do that as well. We survived all three games and I have no idea what the score was, however I think we spent less time restarting the games than the teams we played.

This being the inaugural Carnival there were a few minor hiccups such as lack of seating and ice (old knees need seats to seat old bums and old muscles and bones need ice) at the fields, but I'm assured these concerns will be taken care of at the next Carnival in Buenos Aires in 2006. The team managers Conclave meeting was held towards the end of the Carnival and it proved to be a good open discussion. Vintage Rugby folks have a mission to make the Carnivals about the players and at this the inaugural Carnival; team managers were enthusiastic in contributing ideas. I'm sure these ideas will be sent out in future newsletters, but what I remember most from the managers meeting was the commitment to the next Carnival in Buenos Aires in 2006.

The final dinner was held at the Limerick Race Course and it was a great affair with everyone dressed up for the occasion. I can't remember who won the awards but I'll never forget how smartly dressed the Old Bangkok Bangers were. Where did they get those silk jackets and bow ties?

All in all a wonderful Carnival and as everybody that attended said “ROLL ON BUENOS AIRES”. 

Geoff Andrews

Charity was the winner in Limerick – to the tune of Euro 20,000…
Vintage Rugby is dedicated to supporting local charities where World Carnivals are staged. 

Click image to enlarge, then "Back" to return.Each year the Limerick Leprechauns (who formed the organizing committee for the Carnival) raise much needed finance for many local and national charities. Working with the Vintage Sports Charitable Trust the Leprechauns were able to raise Euro 20,000 (US$24,500) from the Limerick Carnival for their 2004 project - a specially constructed playground at St Vincent’s School Lisnagry for children with intellectual and/or physical disability. 
Anne O’Sullivan, Principal of  St Vincent’s School Lisnagry, pictured with Mike Doyle (Chairman of Limerick Leprechauns) and Paul Gleeson (Vintage Rugby Office) on the site of the new playground).  . 

Post Carnival comment…
Here are some of the messages received since the Carnival …..

“We met a number of members from Presentation RFC at the opening function and they hosted us for the entire week and were excellent hosts both for Vintage Rugby Carnival, the city of Limerick and their own club. I’m not sure if Mike O’Loughlin, Noel or Christy got any sleep for the week. We could not have had a better time while in Ireland and are looking forward to Buenos Aires in 2006. Thanks for putting on a great event” 
- Lars Granade, Battleship RFC.

“Everyone is still abuzz about the good time we had in Ireland. Most people prefer the smaller tournaments to the larger Golden Oldies. Buenos Aires is a must!!”
- Bill Welsh, Les Archiball USA.

“I wish to thank you all for the fantastic Carnival and the experience I had. This was our first experience with ‘seasoned’ rugby and it won’t be the last. I and my team mates WILL be in Buenos Aires in 2006”
 – Jim Cunningham, Brisbane Bustards/Manly Steamers.

“I am, myself, just back from having a kilarney of a time participating in the inaugural World Vintage Rugby Carnival held in Limerick. This was a very, very interesting carnival. Small numbers (30+ teams) meant you could get around and meet almost everyone. There was great weather with no rain in a week and in Ireland this was unheard of. God must be a rugby player also ! And obviously Irish ! Over on the green isle, the guys really love their rugby, partying and story telling. It was a truly memorable carnival.” 
- Geoff Phillips, part-time NY Vintage Whines player (an extract from his newsletter ‘The Gull Files’ distributed to Queensland Over 35 Rugby Association members).

“Hello from Limerick. The weather is here, wish you were beautiful. We’ve come through our first game without injury. The team we played spent fewer times under their posts than we did, but who cares. The only incident worth reporting occurred when our lock, and assistant tour guide for the trip to Buenos Aires in 2006 got bored and put one foot out of the scrum. Not long after, however, he put one foot back in the scrum. Still later, he put one foot back out, and shook it all about. Unconfirmed reports then indicated that he did the Hokey Pokey and he turned himself around” 
- (extract from an anonymous postcard sent home during the Carnival).

“Congratulations on creating a wonderful rugby experience! The Vintage Rugby Carnival 2004 in Limerick will be, without a doubt, among my most cherished memories. From the opening ceremonies to the closing gala, every aspect of the event seemed to be run with the highest level of organization and professionalism. 
After fifteen years of marriage, this trip was both the honeymoon my wife and I never took as well as her 40th birthday gift. And as much as I enjoyed our trip, she enjoyed it even more! This was her first rugby tour and she was amazed at the overall spirit of comradery and at how quickly the bonds of friendship can form among ruggers. I feel this speaks volumes of the high quality of your people and product and the teams that it attracted.” 
- Alan W. Thompson, a member of Les Archiball USA.

A chance to treasure the moment …
If your camera malfunctioned or you couldn’t be in Limerick but would like to see what happened there are two things you can do.

  • Michael Johnson (the photographer with Les Archiball USA) took literally thousands of photos of the week and has loaded them onto his website http://mejphoto.easyphotoview.com (choose the ‘Augusta Rugby Club category). They are available to buy – take a look at this interesting website. You can also contact him at mejphoto@aol.com.

  • The official carnival DVD is ready. It features highlights of the matches and the off-field events. The cost of this great souvenir of the Limerick Carnival is only Euro25 which includes postage and packaging. Enquiries to McGuire Media - 41 Rosnaree, Church Hill Meadows, Raheen, Limerick, Ireland.  
    Ph: +353 61 309581  (Evenings Irish Time)   
    Mob: +353  86 3894979 (Day Irish Time)  
    E-mail: vteditor@vodafone.ie

It was a grand week to be sure … 
Enjoy this  montage of Carnival highlights.
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Limerick team reps lead the parade.
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Battleship Old Boys add colour to the parade.
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Opening party at St John's Castle.
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The opening party later that night.
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Action at the University of Limerick.
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The ultimate lineout.
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Final dinner action.
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Old Bangkok Bangers were smart at the final dinner.
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More lineout action!
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Action in the scrum.
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More rucking action in Ireland.
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Games were fast, free and open!

We are updating the website for Buenos Aires…
While we transition to our new site for Buenos Aires the following are the key links to find out more about Vintage Rugby…

We’ll keep you in touch...
Your next newsletter will be sent in a month or so and will feature further exciting announcements about the World Vintage Rugby Carnival in Buenos Aires and the teams you will be meeting there.  Stay tuned to Vintage Rugby news.


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